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Vic George The ND Guy
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The following is what I have written for the Non-canonical Smurf presentations page on the Smurfs Wiki site (NOT Smurfology as of yet). I want to run this by you folks to see what you think of it and if you have any comments regarding it.

At present, there are two main universes of canon when it comes to telling Smurf stories: the comic book universe, which consists of stories written by Peyo and his family studio, and the cartoon show universe, which consists of stories written by Peyo and by writers for Hanna-Barbera Productions. If a story not written by any of the parties listed does not follow the events that take place within the continuity of stories within either universe, it is then to be considered "non-canonical" and thus should be listed as such.

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VIC GEORGE -- Westfield, MA, USA
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Yeah that sounds right!!

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Originally posted by VicGeorge2010:
At present, there are two main universes of canon when it comes to telling Smurf stories: the comic book universe, which consists of stories written by Peyo and his family studio, and the cartoon show universe, which consists of stories written by Peyo and by writers for Hanna-Barbera Productions. If a story not written by any of the parties listed does not follow the events that take place within the continuity of stories within either universe, it is then to be considered "non-canonical" and thus should be listed as such.


I agree with Smurfy, Vic. Do you have any examples? [Confused]

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I would think that the original stories in the Marvel Comics Smurfs comic books would be non-cannon ("The Smurf Plane", "Monster Smurfs", etc., with edited-down Peyo created gag pages filling space between them in each issue.) I wish I'd hung on to that large collection of all three issues worth of stories, though. The original material in those books wasn't up to Peyo's standards, but they were cute stories.



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These are obvious non-canon examples:

* "The Smurfette Show"
An animated TV Funhouse segment of NBC's Saturday Night Live featured an obese Smurfette in a spoof of The Anna Nicole Show, a reality series featuring Anna Nicole Smith. This spoof uses rather adult humor and is not considered suitable for general audiences.

* "Robot Chicken" episodes
Two episodes of the Cartoon Network Adult Swim animated show Robot Chicken featured episodes about the Smurfs using stop-motion animation. The episodes use rather adult humor and are not considered suitable for general audiences.

* "The Smurfs: The Lost Episode"
A flash animation music video which really isn't a "lost episode" of any sort, created by Double G Productions. It has rather crude adult-level music and depictions of various Smurfs, and is not considered suitable for general audiences.

* "Dances With Smurfs"
An episode from the television show South Park which features the character of Cartman being with the Smurfs. This episode uses rather adult humor and is not considered suitable for general audiences.

* Saturday Night Live Smurfs TV Movie Commercial
A spoof NBC TV movie commercial featuring a live-action version of the Smurfs with humans playing the parts of various Smurf characters was featured on Saturday Night Live. This spoof uses rather adult humor and is not considered suitable for general audiences.

However, there are also some not-so-obvious works that have been either written by Peyo or have been licensed by his family studio that can be considered "non-canonical" because their stories do not follow the events that take place within the continuity of stories within either universe: the animated version of The Smurfs And The Magic Flute, the cartoon crossover special Cartoon All-Stars To The Rescue, and the upcoming 2011 Smurfs movie.

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VIC GEORGE -- Westfield, MA, USA
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Hmmm, very well reminded, Debbie and Vic. And now I remembered there was a Family Guy episode featuring some "Smurfs" too. [Happy Smurf]

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quote:
Originally posted by Squeaky Smurf:
Hmmm, very well reminded, Debbie and Vic. And now I remembered there was a Family Guy episode featuring some "Smurfs" too. [Happy Smurf]


What's more ironic is that Seth McFarlene wrote some of The Smurfs episodes for Hanna Barbera which is loosely based on the actual comics.

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