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Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-21-2012 05:32 AM:
 
The Smurfs jump the shark a lot faster then any other tv show. I do believe it happen in season 5 were they de-age the original adult Smurfs characters into Smurflings.
 
Posted by Smurfy1For2 (Member # 1224) on 05-21-2012 05:36 AM:
 
I think they only really Jumped the Smurf in their time traveling season.. but I do like the early episodes the most!!
 
Posted by VicGeorge2010 (Member # 300) on 05-21-2012 07:28 AM:
 
There's a difference of opinion as to when the cartoon show "jumped the shark". My thinking is that the decline started with Season 5 and Season 9 is when the producers just ran out of ideas. Season 8 should have been the termination point for the series in general. For some people, the "jumping the shark" point is when the viewer passed through puberty, when stuff like Transformers was more interesting than Smurfs. Of course, I was already in my teens when I started watching the show and collecting the comics.

Originally the Empath story series would have taken place after Season 4, with Nat still being an adult Smurf and Empath not having this phobia of just wearing a hat and pants. It's only after the later seasons appeared that I decided to cast the Empath story series in a variation of the cartoon show universe by rewriting Baby Smurf's the Smurflings' origins and having Grandpa, Wild, and Nanny appear after Empath's final return from Psychelia. The story of the Magic Flute still takes place in his universe, though.
 
Posted by Brainy Smurf Snaeha (Member # 2823) on 05-21-2012 10:05 AM:
 
You know what I hate this "jumping the shark" thing sounds nasty.
But to me the series never felt like they ran out of ideas maybe I'm too smurftimistic.
I mean really as long as they keep the original look and style intact It never really going anywhere they always here in my heart.
It just unfortunate that the series died just in time for the whole Saturday Morning Cartoon
decline in popularity.
The Smurfs definitely not died along with the series look what happened last year if you know
what I mean...
Unlike the comics though 50+years in and the magic passed onto the new generation and I just
hope that they will not ruining it.
 
Posted by VicGeorge2010 (Member # 300) on 05-21-2012 10:39 AM:
 
Well, I can't apologize for feeling that Season 9's premise was an act of desperation. In my experience with cartoon shows, goal-oriented plots never reach their intended goal, and it's been that way mostly for prime-time shows as well with only a few exceptions. The Smurfs deserved better than to be flushed down the toilet with something as lame as a never-ending time-traveling trip.
 
Posted by Brainy Smurf Snaeha (Member # 2823) on 05-21-2012 11:18 AM:
 
I can get the picture of the season 9 though it's not that bad or lame for me the cartoon like the
smurfs faced the new challenge,how to keep it fresh while keeping the ratings up and that when
the same time TV started to change its more and more about ratings so does the music executives
starts to think its all about chart performance,hit records and how to sell it rather than gives the
artist the freedom they used to have.
The Smurfs definitely a kind of a property or character that cannot be tamper with this kind of
"all business in mind"
It will always ended up in failure.
Books and Toys Merchandise is another story they always find its way to collectors but TV series
well...people at HB and NBC they just gave up on the series but smurfs themselves they never
gave up...
 
Posted by Squeaky Smurf (Member # 2416) on 05-21-2012 01:02 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Smurfy1For2:
I think they only really Jumped the Smurf in their time traveling season.. but I do like the early episodes the most!!

I agree with you, Smurfy. This season was never released on Brazilian TV and I just heard of it reading the Cartoon Episode Guide here in BB and its episodes synopses. And believe me, this didn't please me at all, I really didn't think HB had such a great idea making the Smurfs get lost in time (it even reminded me "Time Tunnel" the vintage TV series from the 60s), chiefly after watching some episodes on YouTube. [Frown] Sad to say, but I didn't find anything of that old black - sorry, blue - magic from the other seasons. [Roll Eyes]
In other words: not a good idea, Mr. Hanna and Mr. Barbera. Sorry. [Frown]
 
Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-21-2012 06:20 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Squeaky Smurf:
quote:
Originally posted by Smurfy1For2:
I think they only really Jumped the Smurf in their time traveling season.. but I do like the early episodes the most!!

I agree with you, Smurfy. This season was never released on Brazilian TV and I just heard of it reading the Cartoon Episode Guide here in BB and its episodes synopses. And believe me, this didn't please me at all, I really didn't think HB had such a great idea making the Smurfs get lost in time (it even reminded me "Time Tunnel" the vintage TV series from the 60s), chiefly after watching some episodes on YouTube. [Frown] Sad to say, but I didn't find anything of that old black - sorry, blue - magic from the other seasons. [Roll Eyes]
In other words: not a good idea, Mr. Hanna and Mr. Barbera. Sorry. [Frown]

The Smurfs should have ended in season 4 when the show was still at it's bestest. The 5th season of the Smurfs is were the show jump the shark big time, the reason for that happening was the de-aging of the three adult Smurfs characters namely Nat, Slouchy , and Snappy. By turning them into kids all over again, I forgot how mad i was when i first seen that episode.

For some odd reason seasons 8 and 9 never air on CN in the early 90s after it had it's original run on NBC 4 CH.
 
Posted by Jokie Smurf (Member # 4119) on 05-21-2012 06:59 PM:
 
I agree with you smurf it, they should have ended at season 4.
 
Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-21-2012 07:39 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Jokie Smurf:
I agree with you smurf it, they should have ended at season 4.

I do think it would have been better if the Smurfs had stop at season 4 then season 8, because the show would not have jump the shark in season 5 and season 9.
 
Posted by Shaney Smurf (Member # 1345) on 05-23-2012 12:52 AM:
 
I don't think the show jumped the shark until season 9 with the time travel thing. I'm so glad they didn't end the series at season 4. Then I would have never had my favorite Smurf, Sweepy Smurf, in season 6. But seriously, the Smurflings never bothered me one bit. I always thought they were a great addition. The first episode where they de-aged had me a little bit uneasy, but that was mainly because I was always the type of kid who never liked change. But the Smurflings grew on me as did the addition of Grandpa Smurf a year later. It was season 9 when I believe it totally went downhill and NOT season 5. But you can have your opinion when the show jumped the shark for YOU.
 
Posted by Smurfette (Member # 4140) on 05-23-2012 01:33 AM:
 
I think all the episodes are great! I am sad that the series ended, but I personally think series nine could have had a better, more appropriate ending-other than a cliffhanger.
 
Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-23-2012 02:54 AM:
 
I really think the Smurfs downfall begin in season 5. The reason for that was due to the de-aging of the original adult Smurfs characters by turning Natural Smurf, Slouchy Smurf , and Snappy Smurf into Smurflings which pretty much marked the beginning of the end for the Smurfs cartoon series.
 
Posted by VicGeorge2010 (Member # 300) on 05-23-2012 05:15 AM:
 
I didn't think the Smurflings was a bad idea, I just simply hate how they went about doing it. That's part of the reason my version of the Smurflings in the EMPATH stories come from Smurfling Island instead of Father Time's Reverse Clock.
 
Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-23-2012 06:34 AM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by VicGeorge2010:
I didn't think the Smurflings was a bad idea, I just simply hate how they went about doing it. That's part of the reason my version of the Smurflings in the EMPATH stories come from Smurfling Island instead of Father Time's Reverse Clock.

I hated how they ruin the show by de-aging the original adult Smurfs characters into Smurflings. I wish they had have Gargamel trying to clone Natural Smurf, Snappy Smurf and Slouchy Smurf instead of having them go back to childhood all over again.


Season 5 is most likely the reason why i point to it were the show went downhill.
 
Posted by Jokie Smurf (Member # 4119) on 05-23-2012 08:52 AM:
 
Yeah, that would be better.
 
Posted by VicGeorge2010 (Member # 300) on 05-23-2012 12:38 PM:
 
Nat Smurf seemed more like a replacement for Tracker Smurf. Nat would have been better off starting off as a Smurfling, as would Snappy and Slouchy.
 
Posted by Jokie Smurf (Member # 4119) on 05-23-2012 12:58 PM:
 
I agree VicGeorge2010.
 
Posted by Smurfette (Member # 4140) on 05-23-2012 01:36 PM:
 
Very true, I am with you on this one
 
Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-23-2012 05:43 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by VicGeorge2010:
Nat Smurf seemed more like a replacement for Tracker Smurf. Nat would have been better off starting off as a Smurfling, as would Snappy and Slouchy.

I argee with you there.
 
Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-24-2012 01:09 AM:
 
But seriously they should have never turned Natural Smurfs, and those two other Smurflings that were adults into Smurflings all over again since it did kinda ruin the show a whole lot.
 
Posted by Smurfy1For2 (Member # 1224) on 05-24-2012 05:09 AM:
 
I didn't like the episodes when the Smurflings would go off and sulk, or rebel or play in a rock band and things like that. Those episodes of the Smurfs didn't seem any different from any other show!! It stopped feeling like the smurfs and more like every other kid sitcom. Slouchy was whiny like that waay too much.

I liked it when the smurflings were naturally part of the story and just joined in with the older smurfs.

As long as the smurflings weren't in a "I'm a kid rebelling against authority and parents who just don't understand" story they felt like they belonged there totally.

Now getting into mischief is another story because that's always fun!! Having the Smurflings around, and Brainy too is always a good excuse to have things go all haywire and crazy because they're irresponsible!! I love episodes like that too and the Smurflings fit really well there.

So I don't think it's the Smurflings that made it jumpt the shark, I just think they did easy stories sometimes. Like the ones I mentioned about being in a rock band and "adults not paying attention to me" and that sort of stuff.
 
Posted by Shaney Smurf (Member # 1345) on 05-24-2012 04:11 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by smurf it:
quote:
Originally posted by Shaney Smurf:
I don't think the show jumped the shark until season 9 with the time travel thing. I'm so glad they didn't end the series at season 4. Then I would have never had my favorite Smurf, Sweepy Smurf, in season 6. But seriously, the Smurflings never bothered me one bit. I always thought they were a great addition. The first episode where they de-aged had me a little bit uneasy, but that was mainly because I was always the type of kid who never liked change. But the Smurflings grew on me as did the addition of Grandpa Smurf a year later. It was season 9 when I believe it totally went downhill and NOT season 5. But you can have your opinion when the show jumped the shark for YOU.

I really think the Smurfs downfall begin in season 5. The reason for that was due to the de-aging of the original adult Smurfs characters by turning Natural Smurf, Slouchy Smurf , and Snappy Smurf into Smurflings which pretty much marked the beginning of the end for the Smurfs cartoon series.
I'm sorry that the Smurflings idea ruined the rest of the series for you, but I don't agree with you one bit that it totally ruined the rest of the show or was the "beginning of the end". Far from it in my opinion. Season 9 is what ended it for me. Everything up to that point, up through the end of season 8 was fine. I'm sort of on par with what Vic said, that I love the Smurflings, but wasn't all that crazy with how they went about it. But that was only the first episode with the Smurflings that showed the deaging thing. After that, there is really no mention of it again and easily forgotten. But I think the characters of the Smurflings were just as charming as the adult Smurfs. I mean really, we needed some children in the village other than Baby.
 
Posted by Greedette smurfette (Member # 4086) on 05-24-2012 06:18 PM:
 
I agree Shaney Smurf.
 
Posted by smurf it (Member # 4445) on 05-24-2012 06:51 PM:
 
People are entitle to their own opinions. But de-aging the adult Smurfs into Smurflings was a very poor idea to do even if the de-aging thing isn't brought up anymore for some odd unown reason after the first episode it did happen in. The village didn't really need to have kids in it to start since there was already Baby Smurf, but other then that the Smurf show should had stop at season 4 when the show was during really good in it's prime.
 
Posted by Greedette smurfette (Member # 4086) on 05-24-2012 07:36 PM:
 
I think the smurflings added more adventure into the smurfs. But i do understand that you would have preferred if it stopped sooner. The last season was where the smurfs jumped the shark for me.
 
Posted by Squeaky Smurf (Member # 2416) on 05-31-2012 12:47 PM:
 
Well, for all I have observed since I became a Bluebuddies member, good and clever discussions involving any Smurf subject are most welcome. In my opinion this diversity makes the site get even smurfier! [Graduate Smurf]

Despite the Smurflings are not among my favorites, I don't dislike them, they're cute, really (even Snappy with all that mood, LOL) and if there weren't the following seasons (not the last one, please) I wouldn't have the chance of meeting Wild Smurf, Grandpa nor other Smurf friends such as Brenda the little witch or Blue Eyes the winged little horse.
Now there's something I'd like to know: since the Season 5 showed the Smurflings' debut and, according to Wiki, their comic book was launched by Peyo in 1988... Could have he been inspired by that season, since it was released in 1985? [Sassette Smurfling]
What then... What's your smurfy opinion, Smurfs? [Happy Smurf]
 
Posted by VicGeorge2010 (Member # 300) on 05-31-2012 12:53 PM:
 
Possibly the case. Wild Smurf didn't have a canon introduction to the comic book series until 1998, and since then has only appeared in a few Schtroumpferies books.
 


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