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Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 02-18-2011 12:19 PM:
 
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Black Smurf vs Purple Smurf

The original title of the story (which came out in the 1960s) was "Les Schtroumpfs Noirs" - literally meaning "The Black Smurfs". Now the English story is called, The Purple Smurfs.

The black Smurf was replaced by the purple Smurf because there was concern that the story would be considered offensive (ie. racist). The Hanna-Barbera cartoon adapted the story and showed the baddie Smurfs as purple. Now Papercutz has followed suite. The Purple Smurfs book was the first volume released by Papercutz. This story had never been published in English before!

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Les Schtroumpfs Noirs

Was it necessary to change The Black Smurfs into The Purple Smurfs?
[Confused]
 
Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 02-18-2011 12:22 PM:
 
PURPLE SMURFS:

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The Purple Smurfs Cartoon

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The Purple Smurfs Comic Book
 
Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 02-18-2011 12:27 PM:
 
It is interesting that many Smurf collectibles are still using the black Smurf and have not changed to purple. For example, pins, stamps, and toys like the Kubrick & Plastoy statues all use Black Smurfs.

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1961 Smurf Stamps

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2008 Smurf Stamps

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Kubrick Black Smurf Statue

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Plastoy Black Smurf Statue

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Black Smurf Pin

[GNAP!]
 
Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 02-18-2011 12:32 PM:
 
The Nintendo Game Boy Advance (GBA) and Sega Game Gear videogames also used a black Smurf. These games were released well after The Purple Smurfs cartoon had aired on TV.

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The Revenge of The Smurfs - (GameBoy Advance)

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The Smurfs (Game Gear)

The Sega game was from 1994. The GBA game was from 2002.

I still love playing the black & white The Smurfs GameBoy game!
[Big Grin]

>>> Smurfs Video Game Guide
 
Posted by Squeaky Smurf (Member # 2416) on 02-18-2011 06:19 PM:
 
Yep, and the Schleich Angry Smurf is black as in the original story too!
(GNAP!) [GNAP!]
 
Posted by VicGeorge2010 (Member # 300) on 02-19-2011 07:04 AM:
 
One of my EMPATH story ideas was basically bringing the Black Smurfs into that continuity along with the Purple Smurfs, with the difference being that Black Smurfs cannot be affected by tuberose pollen, though they can still be changed into Purple Smurfs.
 
Posted by allyn1 (Member # 3524) on 03-01-2011 06:01 PM:
 
Wow I never knew there was a smurf video game! I absalotly love collecting Schleich smurfs!
 
Posted by MissCassidy (Member # 3409) on 08-29-2011 04:27 PM:
 
Hmmm I think it's a bit of a stretch to even consider the Smurfs racist or anti-Semitic.

Firstly, to define a Jewish steriotype so clearly means one has to make observations of Jewish culture and find common characteristics of that culture based around those observations. Then to stereotype it is to take that common idea and cartoon it.
For example, I might expect someone with a certain accent to be from a certain area. Such as a Southern accent, from somewhere below the imaginary "Mason Dixon" line. I would have know a little bit about my American history, and I would have to understand the associations with the fall of the Confederacy and the grinding poverty the people of the South lived in after the Civil War. Much of this would also be fed through the media of Northern Propaganda to justify the actions of the Northern investors after the war. So, with that in mind the "Southern Accent" = ignorance, poverty, and stupidity.

Is that true?

Of course not!

But that is how stereotypes work.

They are filtered assumptions based on a few facts and lies.

To say the Smurfs are racist is another assumption based on a few facts and someone's opinion.

There is nothing really racist or anti-Semitic about the Smurfs. It just can't be proven!

A) Gargamel has no religion.

B)Gargamel is not a miser, if he was, he'd be like his Uncle Balthazar. Gargamel has spent his money on something. Education? Books? Magical Items? We don't know, but we do know he is broke and is looking for a easy way out that does not require actually "WORKING".

If you know a Jewish person, you will know they work hard!

C) Just because a person is tall and balding does not make them a Jewish stereotype. I mean really?????

Finally, the comics are fantasy. I mean c'mon does this guy do the same thing with say X-men or Superman? How about Conan? There's some good fodder for the analyst.

Comics are comics, and the reader can interpret them as they like, but don't slander a comic and start throwing around accusations unless they are truly founded in fact! The words anti-Semitic and racist still have a lot of weight to them and they incite many negative feelings in people. I feel like this person knew it, and he specifically chose to use those words to evoke the feelings to get people to read his book.

To me, that is just plain disgusting.
 
Posted by Onesimos (Member # 3538) on 08-29-2011 06:23 PM:
 
I am quite surprised that while Papercutz changed the colors of the infected Smurfs and the Swoofs, but still retained the alleged "sexist" language that Gargamel used for the Smurfette formula. Intersting in the English version published by Dupuis in the early 1980s, it changed the text to fit with the cartoon adaptation and changed the footnote to make a "male chauvinist pig" reference.

Changing the colors of the infected Smurfs violates Peyo's intentions and Papercutz should have at least provided an explanation that there was never any racist idelogy beyond their color.
 
Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 01-22-2013 09:14 AM:
 
Here are some interesting Black Smurf collectibles made by Pixi.

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Black Papa Smurf by Pixi
From 2010

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Black Smurf Capture by Pixi
From 2012

The Pixi Smurfs are tiny Smurf collectibles. They are hand-painted metal figures that are only about an inch or two tall! Each Pixi Smurf comes in a fancy red box with a numbered certificate - so there are only a limited number issued. The Pixi Smurfs come from France.
 
Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 01-22-2013 09:33 AM:
 
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Purple or Black?
By Squeaky Smurf


I love this picture!!!!!
[Big Grin]
 
Posted by Squeaky Smurf (Member # 2416) on 01-22-2013 11:21 AM:
 
Thanks much, Sassette! And I loved the Pixi Black Smurf collectibles, thanks a smurf for sharing their pics. [Big Grin]
Do you love Black Smurf Plush too? [Enamored Smurf]

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Because I find him soooo adorable (despite his angry look, tee hee)! [Enamored Smurf] [GNAP!]


[GNAP!] : "GNAP! GNAP!"
 
Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 01-23-2013 07:40 AM:
 
I DO love him! But I'm worried he'd give me a little nibble when I hugged him!!!

[Eek!]
 
Posted by VicGeorge2010 (Member # 300) on 01-24-2013 05:46 AM:
 
It's too bad they can't do a Purple Smurf plushie for the American and English markets.
 
Posted by Sassette (Member # 2) on 01-24-2013 08:08 PM:
 
Good point, VicGeorge. All of the plush Smurfs have always been black, not purple.

What do you guys think of this Black Smurf Pillow? Probably not the most comforting bedfellow!

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Black Smurf Pillow
by Leblon-Delienne 2012

 
Posted by Squeaky Smurf (Member # 2416) on 08-06-2014 12:38 AM:
 
Here's something I'd just found:

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Le Schtroumpf Noir, enamelled ceramics by Sandrine Pelletier.

Scary... isn't he?? [Eek!] [GNAP!]
 
Posted by smurfyteeny (Member # 5525) on 03-26-2015 04:34 AM:
 
what the bleep is that! anyways, to even think for a moment that the sweet little smurfs are racist is beyond horrible! and gargamel isnt a jewish steriotype! at the most hes a wicken (look it up smurfs) who could even think this? but i love that episode. it was in the dvr for a month. i was in tears when i had to delete it! g'nap i thought it was t'nap
 
Posted by Ariel author of The Lost Smurfette (Member # 5345) on 10-02-2019 05:07 AM:
 
Well... Guys I have to tell you... If any of you watch the YouTube channel Cowbelly Studios, you know that black Smurfs are now a meme.
 
Posted by Squeaky Smurf (Member # 2416) on 10-02-2019 04:35 PM:
 
Really? [GNAP!]
 
Posted by Matthew Grisham (Member # 6579) on 10-02-2019 04:50 PM:
 
It is.

Personally, I prefer the Purple Smurfs because they are a much better alternative in America.
 
Posted by SomeGuy (Member # 7093) on 10-02-2019 07:34 PM:
 
As an african american man myself, I believe this is beyond ridiculous. It' not like they have huge red lips, wool-like afros and nose-rings. They're INK BLACK! How in thw WORLD is being ink black racist?!?! If anything, they look MORE evil in purple with their blood red eyes...
 
Posted by SmurfyToesies33 (Member # 7248) on 10-03-2019 09:00 PM:
 
personally i think the purple smurfs represent the virus of capitalism and war invading countries and disrupting peaceful communist societies (basically the smurfs all live and work together in a communist society - the smurfetariat, if you will) in order to further their own goals. there's a similar theme with gargamel who literally wants to turn the smurfs into capital. i think papa smurf is meant to represent lenin. smurfette represents socialism, an ideology with shared heritage from the capitalist world (gargamel) and the communist world (since she's a smurf). she's accepted among the smurfs, but she's not coded as the norm. there is a lot in the smurfs if you look very deeply!
 
Posted by Squeaky Smurf (Member # 2416) on 10-05-2019 03:49 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by SomeGuy:
As an african american man myself, I believe this is beyond ridiculous. It' not like they have huge red lips, wool-like afros and nose-rings. They're INK BLACK! How in thw WORLD is being ink black racist?!?! If anything, they look MORE evil in purple with their blood red eyes...

Agreed. I even understand the reason why HB realized to change their color for the concern of being considered racist, since not all viewers don't understand things the same way; but one must remember this has nothing to do with ethnicity at all. More about here: Racist Smurfs
Personally I prefer the black Smurfs because they're the originals. [GNAP!]
 


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