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An article from Western Washington University in Bellingham, Washington is quite interesting and is worth repeating:

The Smurfs as a Paradigm for Communist Society

The Smurfs are a what? Thats right I said the Smurfs are a model of how a Communist society should operate. What am I talking about you may ask? Very well then I shall explain.

The TV show "The Smurfs" provided youngsters like myself hours of entertainment as a child, but what I am now fianlly realizing is that the Smrufs were actually a well devised piece of Communist propaganda to erode American sociey from within. What follows is a list of evidence supporting my accusations:

1. Have you ever notice how much Papa Smurf looks like Karl Marx? Could this be a subtle attempt to get young children used to the sight of the Father of Modern Communism (in Soviet Russia, large posters depicting Karl Marx were carried in parades celebrating Communism.

2. As well notice that Papa Smurf wears red pants, red being the color of revolution, and of the Bolshiveck party. It is also intereting to note that while Papa Smurf wears red all of the other Smurfs wore white. In the 1918 revolution which resulted in the replacement of the Czarist government by the Communist party, there were two Communist factions battling for control, the reds (Bolshivek) and the whites(The actual name escapes me). In the end the Bolshievecks won and became the ruling class in Communist Russia. Is it not an odd coincidence that Papa Smurf, the ruling member of the Smurf community, wears red while the others all wear white.

3. A fundemental therom of Marx's Scientific Socialism as stated in the Communist Manifesto is something to the point of "from each his ability and to each his needs". Take note that each Smurf does the job that he/she is suited for i.e. Farmer grows the Smurfberries, and Baker bakes all of the Smurfberry pies. Yet all of the Smurfs get all that they need. In fact the Smurfs do not use money or even bother to barter.

4. The Smurfs were not alone in their world. You may ask how Gargamel fits into this model. Well, Communism is not alone in the world either. Indeed there are forces out there that seek to exploit the proleteraite for personal gain. The name of this evil is Capatalism. The system by which a few select bourgiaosie control all of the capital and attempt to exploit the working class for personal gain. Well, this is how Gargamel fits into this model. Gargamel represents the Capitalist bourgiaosie attempting to exploit the proletariate smurfs for personal gain. But wait you say wasn't Gargamel just trying to eat the Smurfs? You obviously didn't watch the show too well. In most every case Gargamel was trying to catch Smurfs because they were ingredients in his latest spell to create or turn something into gold. So it is evident that Gargamel is the representation of the materialistic drive behind Capitalism, to increase capital at any cost.

5. Finally there was Azrael, Gargamel's cat. This scragely old cat fits into the model as well. Azrael represents the third world despotisms that are clinging onto the coattails of first world capatalistic nations trying to grab any scraps they can. In the show Azrael followed Gargamel around trying to catch a stray Smurf or two for a meal.

I think these five points provide very strong evidence pointing to the conclusion that the TV show "The Smurfs" is indeed a paradigm for Communist society.

-Gozer 9-27-97


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The smurlfs society is very simpel, all are dressed in the same cloth and everybody is working - No Crime, no poverty only papa smurf separate himself.
He is the father figure that everybody obey and respect(he is not demokratic elected).
Everytime the smurfs don't obey and follow their own way they allways get in trouble.
Notice he have red clothes(red is the colour of Communism and socialism) and have a big karl marx beard.
in the smurfs univers capitalism is seen as Gargamel the evil and greedy wizard.
Gargamel's only aim is to capture the smurfs and turn them into gold.

Can't you guys see what happening?

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NO THE SMURFS AE GOOD THEY ARENT COMMINISTS YOUR CRAZY YEAH THEY SHARE STUFF BUT ARE YOU AGINST SHARING?????

I THOUGHT SO.

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Ok, I know that this topic has come up before in other groups...Or at least on fanfiction.net. hehee.

It is known that the smurfs are not a simbol of Communist. Each smurf does have it's own original charactistics, some even dress a bit differently then the rest, ect. Hefy's tattoo, Handy's overalls, Paiter's paint shirt...not to mention all the smurflings dress differently as well.

It does appear in the smurf universe that there is only one 'Papa Smurf' aka 'Leader'. He is an elder, a wise experienced smurf that guides the younger generations into their adulthood. Even most of the smurfs are between the ages 100-150 they are still concidered very young and at the 'learning' stage of their life. I would say they would be in their 'teens' or very young adults.

As for Gargamel, well, most cartoons must have a villian, other wise you are just watching a bunch of happy blue elves playing with each other...as much fun as that sounds, it can get rather boring. lol.

The color 'red' as you put it is not just known as a Communism and socialism society, it is also the color of leadership. In our chakras (moving vortex up and down our body...if you want more info, email me and I'll send it to you via email), red is the color for the first chakra. It's purpose is for grounding (makes sense being it is located at the base of your spine and faces towards the ground). Basically if you are not grounded, you can get off balanced, you can become scattered brained, unsure of your purpose in life, and lack of control over your own goals. To gain strenght back into your first chakra is to wear red, or wear red Jasper stone, or Obsidian stone, or Hemitite Stone necklace, bracelete, earrings, or even just bying the stone and putting it in a little bag and under your pillow at night. (its a spiritual thing).

I may sound geeky for saying this, but it is just what I have noticed by watching the cartoons. That, and I make it part of my studdies for when I create my own original cartoons. I pay attention to details.

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^^^^

WHAT SHE SAYS

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WACLN,

Here is an analysis of the topic...

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feelings on the communist thought

Doing research for a magazine article. now, i know nothing of the smurfs but was just wondering what smurf fans felt of the critics view that the smurfs are communists?

i would appreciate helpful replies, i know this could possibly be not a good subject to talk to a smurf fan about, i dont know.

thanks

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Some people would think the early Christian church was communist in the sense that its members, as spoken of in Acts ch 2 and 4, basically shared everything they had in order to support those in need.

But anyway, my opinion is that they are more a familial community than they are "communist", since all of them identify themselves as having the same father and, in a sense, from that, they are all like brothers and sisters of each other -- though more in the sense that born-again Christians identify themselves as being brothers and sisters in the faith, having the same God as their Father.

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Nice analogy Vic, being a born again Christian myself I like that. [Smile]

As for people saying the Smurfs are communist angers me. I mean come on, it's a kid's cartoon show and a lot of them actually had good moral lessons in them, something today's cartoons lack. Just because the Smurfs live in a communal setting led by an older and wiser Smurf does NOT make them communist. Rather it makes them more like a family like Vic has said. Also, they are all happy and look to Papa Smurf as a father figure and he is very fatherly rather than dictator like.

That's about all that needs to be said about that as that sums it all up. [Cool]

The only thing about the Smurfs that bothered me was there weren't more Smurfettes. [Smurfette]

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I think it's absolutely awful how some people try to distort and ruin the Smurfs. [Mad]

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The Smurfs are NOT communists, they NEVER were, they are NOT, and they will NEVER be.
I wonder who would come to such idea to compare The Smurfs with communists. [Confused] [Confused] [Confused]

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People who probably don't like the Smurfs, and are trying to ruin their image. [GNAP!]

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Yeah, you have a point here, i agree with you in 100%. You know what i think, pepole who are comparing The Smurfs with communists are just Gargamels`.
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I definitely agree with you, too.

I just think it's absolutely horrible that some people really believe that nonsense! [Mad]

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Thanks Cool Smurf, i`m glad that you are sharing my opinion [Wink] .
Best regards to you. [Cool]

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Originally posted by Shane Jensen:
Nice analogy Vic, being a born again Christian myself I like that. [Smile]

As for people saying the Smurfs are communist angers me. I mean come on, it's a kid's cartoon show and a lot of them actually had good moral lessons in them, something today's cartoons lack. Just because the Smurfs live in a communal setting led by an older and wiser Smurf does NOT make them communist. Rather it makes them more like a family like Vic has said. Also, they are all happy and look to Papa Smurf as a father figure and he is very fatherly rather than dictator like.

That's about all that needs to be said about that as that sums it all up. [Cool]

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Do you all remember rainbow? That too was a childrens tv programme. I'll have you know that every episode was full to the brim of sexual innuendo's. Just because its aimed at children doesn't mean that there are no hidden meaning behind this. I would like to hear some real resons for your feelings. I understnad that you might not agree, but why?

thanks guys for what I've got so far, the article is coming on well, and if you like I will post it when its finished. I won't be using any quotes, or names i have found from this website

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Somebody could posit the idea that the hundred Smurfs all vying for the amorous attention of Smurfette is also suggestive of the procreative process that happens. If you can figure that one out, then you'll know what I mean.

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Collectible toys (Smurf or not) are the ultimate form of viral marketing. Purchasers "infect" other potential consumers with awareness and desire, turning the product itself into a function of marketing. Ultimately, the Smurfs are the epitome of capitalism.

The Smurf TV program, however, espouses a firm emphasis on communist ideals. Not exactly practicing what one preaches, is it?

First off, what is Communism? Communism is a totalitarian system of government in which a single authoritarian party controls state-owned means of production with the professed aim of establishing a stateless society. In its ideal form, social classes cease to exist, there are no coercive governmental structures, and everyone lives in abundance without supervision from a ruling class. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels popularized this theory in their 1848 Communist Manifesto.

So how does this relate to TV programs? The conceit of most TV shows it the idea that the world is "real". The program generally doesn't "wink" at the viewer, no matter how absurd the universe. The Smurfs is no exception. Like the "moneyless" world of "Star Trek: The Next Generation", viewers are simply supposed to swallow the idea that money/gold/capitalism is no longer needed, and that a somewhat magical self-sufficient society can exist - a utopia. All we see is "fantasy" or "magic" Communism, without the dirty consequences of totalitarian control. Indeed, in shows like Star Trek: TNG, there is a magical "replicator" that can generate anything. In the Smurfs, "magic" itself conjures what is desired from thin air (or some sort of alchemy-related hocus-pocus).

What am I saying here? The Smurfs are the most capitalistic product you could ever devise. You pay money in the store for the figurines or the DVD, and Peyo rakes in the cash. But the world of the TV show preaches Communism - a communism that could never exist. Indeed, real Communism has never been able to sustain itself anywhere because it is a false ideal - one always destroyed by corruption and avarice. But on TV, you never have to see that side of things. Why do people work so hard on Star Trek: TNG? God only knows - they never explain it. Why does the Smurf Village work so harmoniously without any real system of commerce or rewards? Again, this is never explained - because like all TV shows the premise is essentially a fairytale. A nice fairytale though.

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Not all the Smurfs shared the Communist ideology...this one in particular seemed to want to control his own capital:

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Bourgeois Smurf

This screen capture is from the episode, The Magic Egg. The Smurf in question could wish for anything, and said "I want to be rich!"

I guess there is at least one proletariat in the Smurf Village that doesn't want to be liberated...

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Sounds more like the quandary of the Christian faith: are you willing to sacrifice the contentment you have in your earthly walk and the promise of eternal rewards in the heavens for the deceitful and uncertain promises of temporal earthly riches and pleasures? Of course, at the end of that episode, those wished-for riches ended up vanishing along with the magic egg, so that Smurf was left in the same position that he started with.

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Nice picture, it associates me with Enya`s song "Once you had gold". [Wink]
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I've never seen that episode before, but I really like that picture! [Big Grin]



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I don't think that the Smurfs are communist just because they like to share! In fact, the Smurfs kind of civilization is what I like to call "Na'vism". For example, in "Avatar", the Na'vi worship Aywa (who, in my eyes, is a bit like Mother Nature) and when Grace dies, she said "I see her! She is real!" therefore the Na'vi were worshipping a god/goddess that happens to be real. It is the same with the Smurfs since they worship Father Time and Mother Nature and even met the Greek gods in their time travels. Do you agree?
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Such a mere waste of time of those people. The Smurfs aren't communists at all. [Frown]
They just live in harmony with nature, always respecting it and taking their own support from earth like many beings in the world of magic do. And as for sharing, many primordial communities used to do the same much time before Communism appeared in Russia.

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Also, I agree with Raven Child plus here's why I think the Smurfs aren't communist:

1. If you read the topic on "Smurf Emancipation Day", you would know that communism have a inforced way of law and order, something the Smurfs don't have.

2. Communist are anti-religionus while the Smurfs worshipping nature (and who saids worshiping nature isn't a religion)

I also agree with with Squeaky on the fact that Smurfs aren't communist and just live in harmony with nature.

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